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Toespraak gehouden door Saskia J. Stuiveling, president van de Algemene Rekenkamer, op het derde congres voor Europese rekenkamers en Engelstalige arabische rekenkamers (EUROSAI-ARABOSAI) op 30 maart 2011 te Abu Dhabi, Verenigde Arabische Emiraten (Engelstalig).
Dr Harib Saeed Al Amimi, our kind host, sjoekran for your generous hospitality, and sabah eigir, good morning, dear Colleagues.
Let me start by telling you how much I today miss my Arabic counterpart, Mrs. Faïza Kéfi. The Netherlands as a country honoured her and her untiring work for INTOSAI last year in South Africa, during the INCOSAI congress, and I was of course sure that I would see her again here in Abu Dhabi, she being the Secretary-General of ARABOSAI and the promoter and first organizer of these bi-regional conferences. I would ask the Tunisian delegation to please give her our warm greetings.
In my home town Rotterdam, dear Colleagues,
there is an old banking building, which is now the seat of the
Rotterdam School of the Arts. A bank becoming an arts school, how
appropriate. To celebrate this rehabilitation of the building,
there is a big neon display on the building with the following
text:
You have to change to stay the same.
How well chosen are these poetical words for our institutions: you have to change to stay the same. My institution goes back almost 600 years, and there is no way that it would have survived through the ages without changing with the times. And now, yet again, a time to change has knocked on our doors: be it the environment and the call of nature, be it the information revolution, be it the banking crisis, be it the voice of our youth in the streets, be it a combination of all of these – the message is loud and clear: it’s time to change.
One of the changes we have implemented at the
Netherlands Court of Audit is to change from fighting corruption to
promoting integrity.
The story of this innovation really starts by
replacing the word
“ corruption” with the word “
integrity”. I will tell this story in more general terms and
the real ‘hands on’ story will be told by my Hungarian colleagues
and presented by Dr. Andrea Korbuly.
My story has four chapters.
Integrity is not a simple concept to define.
Many overlapping and distinct definitions are used. The term
integrity is derived from the Latin in-tangere, meaning untouched.
It refers to virtue, incorruptibility and the state of being
unimpaired. Integrity is closely related to the absence of fraud
and corruption, but it also entails common decency. As such it is a
positive and broad concept, which is related to ethics and
culture.
Using this word as a focus, instead of
corruption or fraud, allows us to take a preventive approach.
Integrity is a positive word. It is something you can strive for,
but also something on which you can monitor progress. It helps you
to point out what has been attained, instead of what is
lacking.
Also, using the word integrity helps, because it allows us to use a wide and unspecific definition, beyond legalistic categories like fraud and corruption. It allows us to look at policies and measures that are aimed at preventing all sorts of unwanted behaviour in organisations and which stimulate an ethical culture.
So instead of a specific audit programme for fighting corruption, the Netherlands Court of Audit focuses on stimulating integrity.
To further explain the relative benefits of
focussing on enhancing integrity, instead of fighting corruption, I
will illustrate our position using two dimensions.
The first is the dimension is rule-based versus
principle-based or value-based.
The rule-based approach is repressive,
legalistic and static. It focuses on uncovering bad behaviour by
detection and punishment. It needs clear rules and is therefore
rather static, as rules freeze reality in words. It needs
independent execution in order to maintain the rule of law and
fairness. Therefore it needs narrow definitions of fraud and
corruption. Ownership for the success of this approach is firmly in
the hands of the legislator and law enforcement agencies.
Quite the opposite is the principle or
value-based approach. This managerial approach focuses on
facilitating good behaviour and is rooted in stimulating an ethical
culture. It needs a wide definition of integrity. Ownership
for the success of this approach is widely shared amongst all
actors in society: citizens, civil society, employees and,
especially, the management of public organisations.
The second dimension I would like to
illustrate is between system opportunities and people.
Crimes, such as fraud and corruption, are
committed by people. They have their own personal incentives and a
psychological make-up that may make them more or less
vulnerable.
But they must also be in a position to actually
commit those crimes. The organisations they work for may increase
the temptation for its employees by providing pressure or
rationalisation. This dimension firmly puts the focus on the
importance of circumstances and organisational
responsibility.
Such circumstances and vulnerabilities can be
assessed in a systematic way, thus enabling us to focus on risk
assessment and risk management within public sector
organizations.
By combining these two dimensions, we can
identify four types of approaches. In the end they are
complementary and can, maybe I should say must, exist
together.
First of all we focus very much on the
preventive approach, we focus on the organizational opportunities
and we base our approach on what auditors call Internal controls:
organisational processes and their management.
Secondly we stretch the preventive approach to
the people in the organizations - aiming to stimulate value-based
cultural processes, trying to establish shared values, facilitating
an open discussion on dilemmas. Integrity is far from being a
static concept. On the contrary, it is a very dynamic concept
which changes over time and from country to country. Debating it on
a regular basis allows us to follow its development instead of
being locked in the rules.
Still, and thirdly, sometimes it is good the
have the rules still available to have the opportunity to repress
really unwanted behaviour. Provided they are up-to-date,
legislation, rules and codes set the boundaries and make clear what
behaviour is required and what punishment can be expected if these
boundaries are transgressed.
And lastly if all prevention fails, they permit
us to follow the repressive approach, focused on people, aimed at
detection, prosecution and punishment of crimes.
So, introducing the word ‘Integrity’ allows us to bring prevention into the equation and extend the ownership of solutions for corruption beyond the legislator and the law enforcers to a wider range of stakeholders, including civil society and public sector management.
Which brings me to chapter two: auditing
integrity.
Our choice for this systemic approach is rooted
in our organisational strategy.
Our strategy is based on the United Nations
definition of good governance. The Netherlands Court of Audit wants
to contribute to good governance in the Netherlands. And good
governance both requires and enhances the integrity of the public
sector.
From the eight aspects of good governance
that the UN defines, we as SAIs are concerned with four in relation
to government performance and operations: “Demand-driven” and
“effective and efficient” in serving the public relates to our
performance audits;
“Transparent” and “accountable” in its
operations as a public entity relates to our regularity
audits.
Operational management bridges performance and
regularity audits.
The audit of integrity systems can be positioned
exactly on this bridge, as a special kind of operational management
audit.
A vital feature of our approach is that we insist on the fact that the integrity of an organisation is the responsibility of its management. Not of the legislator or enforcement agencies. This puts the ownership of solutions where it belongs: on the shoulders of the management of the public organisation from whom the public expects the delivery of good public services in an honest way. They are responsible and they are accountable for the results.
In our country all organisations in the
public sector are required to have an integrity policy. We take
this as the basis for our audit criteria, but we go one step
further: this integrity policy should be risk-based. This is
necessary to prevent having policies which are merely paper tigers,
copies of ‘examples’ from similar organisations. Another big
advantage: these risk analyses can be used for monitoring and
risk-mapping purposes.
Finally, we require that the measures and controls that an organisation has in place to mitigate its integrity risks be a mixture of stimulating (carrot) and repressive (stick) measures. For example, we require that each organisation has an independent integrity counsellor with whom employees can discuss their doubts and suspicions in the strictest confidence. But we also require that the organisation has good procedures for detecting, investigating and sanctioning incidents in the event something goes terribly wrong.
In our work to contribute to the integrity of
our public sector we adopt a three-tier approach.
We first embed integrity in all our audit
designs: in our financial, regularity and performance
audits.
Next to that we have a programme in place
to monitor the ‘integrity care systems’ of the public sector and
from time to time we publish the results.
Finally we put a lot of effort into different
ways of improving the effectiveness of our work by sharing our
knowledge and seeking strategic alliances. This also involves
looking for innovative ways to do our work.
For all three of these activities I will now
give you an example.
‘SAINT’ is short for self-assessment integrity
and we presented its more mature version ‘IntoSAINT’ to INCOSAI in
South Africa last year. But we started back in 2005. We
developed the first version of SAINT together with the Ministry of
the Interior and the Bureau of Integrity of the City of
Amsterdam.
SAINT is a structured risk analysis workshop,
which involves the organisation’s own employees. At the same time
it is both a diagnostic tool and a cultural intervention.
The big advantage of self-assessment is that it
stimulates ownership of the risk-analysis and of its solutions
within the organisation.
In 2007 we were involved in a twinning project
with our Hungarian colleagues. In this project we used the SAINT
approach as a basis for the design of a risk-mapping
methodology.
Together with our Hungarian colleagues, we
elaborated upon the original SAINT instrument. This resulted in
some important improvements.
Building on this experience we embarked on a project to make the SAINT instrument available for other SAIs in the Intosai community.
This project is called IntoSAINT. We tested
the IntoSAINT version in 5 different countries: South Africa,
Finland, Yemen, Ghana and Indonesia. And were happy to be able to
say that it works in different cultural and institutional
environments.
We are now working on a project to make
IntoSAINT available to the entire INTOSAI Community. This year we
will start by training moderators from SAIs, which have volunteered
to participate in the roll-out of the project, at a workshop in The
Hague in September.
Some of you may have already expressed interest
to participate. If you have missed this opportunity, but are
interested to participate, please come and speak to me or my staff
during the break.
My next example comes from our monitoring of integrity management in the public sector. In 2004 we established a baseline of the implementation of so-called hard controls, such as the implementation of rules and regulations. In our 2009 audit we also wanted to say something about the cultural aspects of the organisations, the soft controls, and the effectiveness of the integrity management. For that purpose we used an employee perception survey.
This survey enabled us to look beyond the
documental evidence and include the perception of employees on the
integrity of their own organisation. This gave us insight into the
effects and maturity of the instruments used. Moreover, it also
enabled us to get an impression of what employees thought of the
functioning of their management.
We used an existing and well-validated
instrument, the ‘Internetmirror ’. With this instrument we
conducted an internet survey amongst a group of 17.000 civil
servants, of whom 38% responded. If you are familiar with surveys,
you will know that this is an excellent response rate.
This instrument allowed us to benchmark the results of the different organisations on aspects of culture, management and adhering to rules and regulations. Here you can see the benchmarking results of one question. The instrument also gives you an integrity-index, which can be benchmarked. In this way organisations can be stimulated to learn from good examples which may be found elsewhere and come to a more effective integrity policy.
My last example is concerned with the use of geo-spatial information systems (G.I.S). It shows how you can combine data using geo-spatial maps in order to gain insight into integrity risks.
The power of a G.I.S. is that it enables users to produce high quality maps on any scale, to store and maintain a large quantity of geographically-related information, to visualize and simplify complex data, and to create new data from existing data.
The most powerful aspect of a G.I.S is that it allows users to perform complex analyses by linking data layers and overlaying different data sets to get a spatial perspective.
In the example on the slide you can see
various layers that can be used by a private company to determine
how its customers can best be reached.
The American website recovery.gov gives us an example of the possibilities of G.I.S in improving transparency and integrity. On this website geo-spatial information is provided on the spending of the recovery funds in the United States.
The website provides numerous maps containing
geo-spatial information on the distribution of funds per objective.
The website also provides information on important policy
indicators, like unemployment.
This way citizens are enabled to track the
spending of funds and to assess whether this information is correct
with regard to where they are living down to the level of their own
postal code.
And if citizens experience incidents of money
being wasted or even fraud and corruption, they can report this.
These reports also provide valuable information for auditors: where
are the risks of waste, fraud, corruption, etc?
This type of work can produce a powerful tool in
mapping integrity risks, as my Hungarian colleagues will show you,
after my last slide, which is about leadership. It is my firm
belief that Supreme Audit Institutions can provide and should
provide integrity leadership.
And therefore it is my pleasure to hand over the
floor to the Hungarian SAI which has been showing leadership with
its risk-mapping project and I won’t keep you any longer from
hearing their story: Integrity goes
Hungarian…
Thank you for your attention.